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I usually don’t respond to messages done by myself but one topic I want to bring up in the general meeting is about the new space of Probabilistic Graphical Modeling Languages like Pyro, Tensorflow-Probability, and Turing (in conjunction with Flux), ForneyLab.jl, PGM.jl, and BayesNets.jl and how could Stan help within this space or if there are Graph-based frameworks that we should support as Stan users around PGMs…
this sounds really interesting - unfortunately another meeting - Bob Carpenter also will be in that meeting, hence not at Stan one. if someone could summarize discussion and report here that would be awesome.
My apologies for AWOL on general meeting for a while. Any details on the discussion w.r.t slack? I’m not on stan slack so the only background I have is Aki’s post above. It’d also help to @SGB when the you’d like to replay certain issue. I just happen to be in this thread get some update on PGM, thanks to @mitzimorris, otherwise would have totally missed it.
Ah ok sorry about that @yizhang , my mistake, I’ll make sure to do the @SGB for stuff concerning them next time. In terms of the transfer of service from slack to another service. There was discussion of using Discord, Zulip (which is an open-source equivalent to slack), and a few others. The main two we talked about were Discord and Zulip though.
Sorry about the confusion @yizhang, perhaps my words were in poor choice. I think what we were primarily concerned about and why the @SGB would need to be involved, was that there would be a platform shift in how Stan users talk about issues or report problems and that said platform might warrant some kind of monetary decision. So that’s really why I said that this would involve the @SGB.
@yizhang we actually would like to add something to the SGB agenda wrt to Slack.
@avehtari has recently posted that in the first week of March we had 52 active members and 31 posting members which means that a free Slack for nonprofits would suffice for us for quite some time if we let it grow organically and if we were to use something else for Stancon.
What SGB would have to look at is applying here:
Not sure if we can apply as Stan or if we would have to go through NumFocus.
If we get denied for this we can then look at any free alternatives.
What was the result? The current Slack limit is hurting us as we’re losing relevant discussions. We should switch to Slack nonprofit discount scheme or switch to some other platform. I think right now we’re waiting @SGB to check the nonprofit discount option.
Apologies for the lack of feedback. We don’t seem to hold the right organizational status to be able to get this. I’ve put out a question at NumFOCUS to ask if there is a way to frame us in the right context. Without the nonprofit scheme it seems quite expensive.
So far, responses that I’ve had suggested other projects had the same problem and some of them have switched to Zulip. Zulip has explicit free plans for open-sourse projects. Should we explore and consider the switch?